Daedalus Interchange Discussion, Pedagogy of the Internet Workshop, July 5, 1996

Bob Henderson:
Hi everybody! It's really raining.


Jung Ying Lu-Chen:
1. "The" most important thing that I learned this week is that I have to spend the rest of life learning about Internet. Isn't that "wonderful"?

Hope Staab:
I agree with Jung Ying in that time is a big problem. I am also concerned with enough technology staff support.

George Jor:
This is a great workshop. I really learnt a lot from the instructors and the participants. Thank you so much.

Jung Ying Lu-Chen:
2. It would be nice if we can really "see" a "model" technology-enhanced curriculum design for a LCTL.

Tired Patriot:
I learned how to learn, I hope. I am worried too about the time it will take to implement and assimilate even this, much less reach any mastery.

Bob Henderson:
I think one could spend the rest of one's life learning about Internet, and
realize more every day how little one knows. But that's life! The more we
learn, the more we'lle able to do with it.


Terry Weston:
Terry W.
On reflection I often think that after having learned something new in technology that it was not so difficult as I thought it was and that I wish I had had more time to spend doing and less just listening.

Eva Prionas:
Eva prionas

More projects to do!! I really enjoyed the interaction.

Hope Staab:
back to Jung Ying's second comment. Problem with models, is that it's hard to see the relevancy to your own situation, again, one needs time to adapt.

P Kotey:
Paul Kotey
This has been a very informative and a very beneficial week for me.

George Jor:
The most important thing I learnt is the integration of technology into authentic communication and the meaning of collaboration among people on the Internet.

Tired Patriot:
I need to reflect on these questions a bit. I will respond later via e-mail.

R. Shimizu:
Miller sensei:

I would like to know what "Daudalus?" , this program's name origin. Could you tell me? Arigatoo

Ann Taa:
I like these questions. It would be nice to do this kind of exercise at the beginning of the workshop as well as at the end.

Hope Staab:
Suggestion for future NFLRC workshops: more time to discuss ideas, more time to practice what we have learned. Guess you just have to stay in Hawaii longer.

Bob Henderson:
I have really appreciated that concern that has been shown not just for
how the technology works, but more importantly, how it _has_ to be
integrated within the nstructional framework (which may mean altering
the framework to accommodate the innovative strategies as well as
adapting the strategies to the framework).


Moon:
This is a very interesting medium for chatting.
Does this software support non-Roamn fonts?

Bob Henderson:
Issues and concerns: Where is our lunch????

Tired Patriot:
I agree with Bob. The medium affects the message, affects the goals, and even how the tasks for the students are structured.

P Kotey:
Paul Kotey
Hope obviously does not want us to leave her beautiful Island!!!

Jung Ying Lu-Chen:
I cannot type Chinese here. I think we need something similar to the "Japanese font patcher".

Mark Warschauer:
There will supposedly be a version of Daedalus out that supports non-Roman fonts soon, but the current version does not. But I think it is possible to create "patches" for certain languages; one has been created for Japanese.

Hope Staab:
It's hard to stay on topic, so I'll go off the assignment. Who hasn't been to Hanauma Bay? Interested in going this weekend, early? 7:30 one morning?

Kuan-Yi Rose Chang:
Sorry, I just joined in. What are we discussiing? Can anyone give me a hint?

Terry Weston:
Maybe in a subsequent version of this sort of workshop participants could just plunge into the work of writing something as simple as their syllabus and learn HTML at the same time.

Ann Taa:
Dear Moon: it does. The director ofthe Language Learning Center at Haverford College, Virginia Lewis, promised to send me the info. as to how to go about it doing Daedalus in Japanese, today. It will be shared soon on our Web.



Tired Patriot:
Mark,
Any suggestions for keeping students on task when using this?

Jung Ying Lu-Chen:
It's 12:02pm now. Let's have lunch now.

:
I think it would be useful to start designing curriculum here, finish it and implement it in our institutions and then communicate our experiences, problems etc. through pedagogy-L.

Nancy Stenson:
I'm having trouble keeping up with all the incoming messages here. I've
learned a lot this week. I'm wondering what I'll do back in my office
which doesn't have all these helpful people who can look at my messes
and know instantly where I've gone wrong and how to fix it. I've been
spoiled.


Kuan-Yi Rose Chang:
Hope: I'm going with the Symposium group on Monday afternoon. Any advice? Thanks,

P Kotey:
Paul Kotey
Tired Patriot, you are hereby ordered by the Supreme Court to reveal your true identity.

Hope Staab:
Someone mentioned English Department should have Daedalus, why is that?

Terry Weston:
Hope. Does it matter what the weather is when planning an outing to Hanauma or not? Does it also matter what time a person gets there as to whether the rentals are open or not?


R. Shimizu:
Dear Mark:
It was nice for you and Keiko to invite us for party. Unforgettable Fourth of July. Thank you.





George Jor:
Q.2 What outstanding questions or concerns do you have? What issues do you think it is important for workshops like this to address in the future?

One of my major concerns is more of an institutional one than a technical one. How do you convince administrators of the value of the Internet and secure institutional support in terms of funding, time, and tenure?

Amaa:
The workshop activities demonstrated the wide variety of technologies that are available for language learning. In addition, the presentations showed how technology can promote collaboration and communication.
Outstanding issues remain:
1. Funding sources and proposal writing/implementation
2. Training short-term instructors (i.e., TAs and lecturers) in various
pedagogical applications (.e.g., dialog journals, cloze reading, task vs.
text)
3. The future is now and even yesterday. Perhaps better phrased, How to
remain calm in an environment that has built in obsolescense.

Ann Taa:
In my experience, this easily happens. I mean going off the topic. I wonder if it is because the fact that our teacher is not watching us?

Tired Patriot:
Ann,
What is your Web address?


Mark Warschauer:
I think rentals at Hanauma start at 8:00 a.m. It is very advisable to get there early....


Nancy Stenson:
Hope: I haven't gone. I'd like to go. How far is it? How long a day? Which
day did you have in mind?

Jung Ying Lu-Chen:
Even the teacher likes to go off the topic.

Terry Weston:
George: Have the administrators take part in demonstrations of the technology and it would seem they would come around more quickly. They just can't understand what is being talked about if they haven't done it themselves.

Ann Taa:
What do you think that the appropriate number of people in one group of this sort of exercise?


Mark Warschauer:
Hope, the English dept. my have Daedalus because it is a very popular program among English composition teachers.

P Kotey:
Lunch has been cancelled today.

Vijay Gambhir:
This has been a very useful workshop. A real experience of collaborative learning! Thank you Mark.

Terry Weston:
First I've heard of lunch cancellation.

George Jor:
Mark,
Please let us know when the non-Roman version of DIWE will come out?

Bob Henderson:
Yes, thank you, Mark, for all your help. It has been a great learning and
doing experience. Thanks also to the NFLRC staff. Now, what about that lunch?

Hope Staab:
Rose: one should go to Hanuma Bay early, not much shade, so take lots of sunscreen.

Terry: hopefully the weather will be nice, makes it more beautiful. However, weather at that side is often better than over in Manoa. I don't know about rentals, but we'll bring some gear. However, when there's jellyfish around, they close the Bay.

Vijay Gambhir:
What is the price of this software?

Mark Warschauer:
Lunch is just about ready. Please finish up what you're writing and then let's go. And thanks for all your comments!

Nancy Stenson:
Question on the interchange: Any ideas on ways to control multiple
simultaneous conversations? Can input be organized somehow?

Hope Staab:
Nancy & Terry, shall we do it Saturday at 7:30? About 20 minutes drive, we'll be back around 9:30 or 10 in the morning, don't want to stay in the sun too long.

Ann Taa:
This workshop has been very helpful. It has given me answers to so many questions and a whole lot more to think about. I am happy that my vague idea for a project now has some ground to stand on. Thank you, everyone. Yoko

Mark Warschauer:
O.K. Thanks. Mahalo. Let's go!

George Jor:
Mark,
You said DIWE was very popular among compostion teachers in the English Department of UH. Can you recommend a few teachers whom we might contact and talk about the effects of DIWE on the instruction and the students?